Featured John Gerstner's Unbiblical Nonsense!

False teachers, false believers and anyone who is not foreknown and predestinated, roby.
You're missing Romans 8:29-30, Acts of the Apostles 13:48, Acts of the Apostles 2:37, Acts of the Apostles 2:47, Romans 9, Romans 10:20, Romans 11:1-8 and many more.
Respectfully, we've been all through this.

Scripture actually defines the "whosoever believeth" as being those that God has foreknown.
No one outside of the foreknown and predestinated will ever be justified by the blood of His Son.

If you don't want to acknowledge those passages, and many more, you don't have to.
But they are in the Bible, and they do say that they mean and mean what they say.

The words speak for themselves.

So, the next time you ask me this question, don't say that I didn't show you Scripture, OK?
That is the only place that I get this information from, my friend.

 

You have it backwards. Only those who believe are elect because only those who believe are "in Him" (Ephesians 1:4).

The sheep in the gospels are Israel, not the church.

 

Saying it doesn't make it so. The "out of context" reply only has traction if you show in what way context is being violated, which you haven't done.

 

SBG,
I've shown you Scripture after Scripture on other subjects...

To me, there's no reason to suspect that you'll simply reject anything else that I have to offer on any subject that we discuss.
But I'm still willing to try.

Good afternoon to you, sir.

 

If you are genuinely interested in hearing a biblically sound perspective, different from your own, on each of the passages you mention above, I will be glad to offer in a fresh thread since this one is about to petrify. If the words simply and truly "spoke for themselves," as genuine seekers of truth (which I believe you to be based on observation) we and many others would not have a difference of understanding.

 

Thank you sir, but I have a Bible and can read it.
I also trust the Lord to show me truth from error.

I do however, appreciate the offer.

May God bless you this day and everyday.

 

Read Jesus commission. Why must you constantly question what God says in the Bible if it doesn't conform with your opinion of what is best?
At some point you are going to have to accept what God says in the Bible and stop looking for loopholes where you remain your own ruler.
Go to the Bible and answer your own question. God tells you the answer, but will you actually accept what God says?

 

It actually is, if you ever care to read what Gerstner said and grasp it.

 

It amazes me that you have provided nothing, yet you think you have proved something.

 

Again, do you rejoice in God's justice or not? Pretty simple question.

 

No one disagrees that the gospel is a message for all humanity. You keep running down off-topic trails. Hmmm....

 

Whoever believes. Doesn't rule out anyone from believing.

 

LOL, the annihilationist certainly has nothing to add regarding hell.

Is God just? Will the saints rejoice in God's justice as Gerstner asserted?

 

Thank you for this perfect example of eisegesis and mishandling of scripture. May everyone take note.
You assert a fallacy and then attempt to prove it with a verse that addresses the chosen people of God under the Sinai/Mosaic Covenant, which has nothing to do with eternal salvation. Bravo.

 

May I ask what authority you claim for holding other members here accountable for sin and judging them accordingly? John 9:34-41 might be worth a second look since you seem allergic to Matthew 7.

 

Remember the story of the man in the ocean who rejected offers of help from three different boats because he was trusting God to deliver him? ;-)

 

Wait, so the verses on hell by Matthew, Luke and Peter are not shared in your Bible? The passages written by John in the Revelation are not actually there?
Excuse me, I choose to actually accept the entire text of scripture, which is why you cannot be correct.

 

Do you hold that Destroy means burnt up, no more existing?

 

Read your Bible. What does God say. Hint, start with Romans 9.