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  1. JonShaff

    Epidemiologist Warns of Lockdown Consequences

    This is melodramatic. Side note--do we as Christians really believe that The Lord Jesus has the keys of death and Hades? Not saying we act foolishly, but do we really believe that God can preserve life if He chooses? .
  2. JonShaff

    America trails most of the rest of the developed world.

    I understood his point. I wouldn't consider this cognitive dissonance.
  3. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    Hi! Good morning! Where in 1 Corinthians 10:16 does it say that Christ Himself is present IN the elements?
  4. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth. The bread and the wine causes us to remember His Sacrificial death--"Do this in remembrance of Me." His Spirit is present in the person (the believer himself) and in the gathering. Not in the elements. The...
  5. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    Because our communion isn't with the bread and wine--it's with the Person of Christ and His People.
  6. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    My apologies--i edited it--meant 1 Cor. 11.
  7. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    1 Corinthians 11 is talking about the fellowship of the Body of Christ--the people of God. Not people with bread. The Spirit of God lives in His people--He is present when we meet. 1 Corinthians 3:16 Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst...
  8. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    I'll say this one last time. The Presence of God is in the People of God through the Holy Spirit of God. Not in bread and wine. I quoted the 1 Corinthians portion that you quoted. Jesus said to do it in remembrance of Him. That's pretty cut and dry. It's a reminder that His Blood and Body was...
  9. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    Sir, you are missing it here. Christ fulfilled them all. We do not need types and shadows any longer. God's presence is not in bread and wine--His presence is in Christ and Christ is in the people of God.
  10. JonShaff

    How to Know You are in a Heterodox Cult

    All of those things you mentioned in the Old Testament were types and shadows of the things to come. Christ is the fulfillment of those things. He is not going to return back into a type or shadow. That's going backwards. Read Hebrews 1.
  11. JonShaff

    The Biggest Threat of the Coronavirus

    My post is not meant to be argumentative, just more out of curiosity. Do you think those percentages could be skewed as it is only based on REPORTED cases. From what i understand, you can get healed up at home very easily if you are healthy with no one even knowing what you had.
  12. JonShaff

    Regarding Romans 3:25 ...

    Ephesians 3:12 In Him and through faith in Him we may enter God's presence with boldness and confidence. It's not either or, it's both and.
  13. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    I've enjoyed engaging with you, but i think this is as far as the convo will go. Ephesians 4:11-16 clearly teaches that God will continue to raise people up to further the Kingdom of God, as he equips and matures His people. I can't make you see that. Have a good one bro.
  14. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    Correct, you need Called apostles to go to places FIRST--Adoniram Judson, the apostle to the Burmese.
  15. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    There is no other? What about Timothy, Silas, Titus? All apostles that ministered to the Gentile Churches.
  16. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    Paul doesn't claim to be the last apostle here, he claims to be the last one to see the Resurrected Christ (as context is proving the Resurrection of our Lord). Your claim is off base.
  17. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    Paul teaches that the gifts will continue, unless you want to start ripping out pages of Scripture?
  18. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    the Latin word Missio and Greek Apostolos are "sent ones" (envoys; messengers). Yes bro, Missionaries are apostles and apostles are missionaries. Think about what modern day missionaries do. Go to an area with no or limited Gospel access. Preach the Word Gather the (new) church Raise up leaders...
  19. JonShaff

    How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

    Yes we do, the Bible Clearly teaches us we do. Ephesians 4:11-16 They will continue until...(Christ returns) They are necessary for every place the Gospel of Christ goes forth; for every new work the Lord starts and establishes. JESUS is the The complete "Five Fold" and He is the Apostle of...
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