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  1. McCree79

    Agree or disagree with this statement?

    Not "all". Tim Challies and Denny Burk for example are part of TGC and are outspoken against the social justice movement (as the left presents it). If Chandler was supportive movement, I would think we wouldn't see a million dollar #metoo lawsuit filed agaisnt him. Sent from my SM-G965U...
  2. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    Show me where Wallace disputes the Subjects of the passage or says that passive verbs should be translated from the perspective that clouds what the subject is. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  3. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    I know it is passive. Who is the subject? What is a a grammatical subject and how does relate to the verb in translation? "Why are you muddying the waters" and ignoring grammar? Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  4. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    ἐκ (ἐξ before vowels) prep. with gen. from, out from, away from; by, by means of, by reason of, because; for; on, at; of The subject is still the subject. You are trying to let another noun control the translation of the verb. It should be done from the subjects point of view to maintain...
  5. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    "Εκ" literally is "away from" God. It points away from Him :) Just messin with ya there. I know what you are trying to say there, but God the Father is not the subject. The noun of the γεννάω is the subject. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  6. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    The language is stressing what God has caused/produced. The subjects in this passage are "Everyone who love" and "Jesus Christ." They are the subjects of the passage, therefore the verbs should focus on the subjects...."born" keeps the focus on the subjects. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  7. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    It seems that way. Both options provided in the OP are fine. I prefer the NASB because I think it better conveys the force of the verb in our modern English, but both options are acceptable. *Begat vs. Fathered .....no difference so whatever. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  8. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    Exactly right. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  9. McCree79

    Born or Fathered?

    To begat a child is to become a parent. However I think the emphasis here suggests "born" would be better. The voice of the Greek is letting us know that God caused Jesus to be born of flesh and is the active force behind those "born of Him". God is not passive in any of the uses of γεννάω...
  10. McCree79

    Pastor disqualifies himself over Trump

    Very. He is one of the highest profile SBC pastors. *Correction.....I am not 100% sure he is SBC. But he is popular among the SBC. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  11. McCree79

    Pastor disqualifies himself over Trump

    That is an old tweet. But he certainly seems to be promoting dishonesty. But if you really want to make your head spin....he said today the "social justice movement" doesn't exist. Says those like Tom Ascol have made it up in order to promote an "anti" movement. Is There an Evangelical...
  12. McCree79

    Using more than one version to study from

    You are using 3 good translations. Comparing translations is always a good idea. Keep doing what you are doing. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  13. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    You have not shown one verse where Paul says that. All you have shown is that Christians who act fleshly can understand spiritual milk. Paul clearly says they cannot understand in 2:14. Your claim is unproven. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  14. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    Prove it Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  15. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    He says nothing of the sort. He contradicts this in 2:14. Paul's expects those with the Spirit to understand in chapter 3. He never addresses the lost understanding spiritual milk. You are looking for an implication that is not there. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  16. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    Spiritual milk is of the Spirit. Therefore covered by the "things of the Spirit of God". Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  17. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    What strawman? That is literally your argument. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  18. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    Paul is calling them weak and sin. That is what the Greek is saying. Paul uses ψυχικός (psychikos) to describe those without the Spirit in 2:14....and they are unable to understand. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  19. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    The were behaving like fleshly people. They ARE people without the Spirit. To say that since people with the Spirit can understand spiritual milk, means those without the Spirit can understand spiritual milk as well is a logical fallacy. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
  20. McCree79

    Flaws found in NIV

    You are certainly acting like the expert of Greek. I translated the whole verse in post 66 Someone who can read Greek. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
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