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  1. Rockson

    Hyperbole used by God?

    Well let's try this one God speaking of the Chaldean army, They shall cut down her forest, saith the LORD, though it cannot be searched; because they are more than the grasshoppers, and are innumerable. Jer 46:23 One dictionary definition even states the word many times is used in a...
  2. Rockson

    Hyperbole used by God?

    But a metaphor is still not literally the truth and throughout your thread here, is what you've insisted must absolutely be the method of God. Well it's not a metaphor when everyone should know something wasn't meant to be taken literally and actually it isn't a lie. You said hyperbolic...
  3. Rockson

    Hyperbole used by God?

    Well you're failing to consider what God told Abraham, "And the LORD took him outside and said, “Now look to the heavens and count the stars, if you are able.” Then He told him, “So shall your offspring be.” Gen 15:5 By saying if you are able seems to signify he wasn't just referring to what...
  4. Rockson

    Mueller "Testimony"

    I get the feel that's the case too. Not that Dems who turn away always will in the far future but many of them have seen the antics of their party not willing to get on with the business of making government work and are ticked off. I'm guessing they'll give Trump the nod for another term and...
  5. Rockson

    Sharp logic

    Until it's acknowledged that the present non action or politicians is traitorous to the nation regardless of their motives and works against what's in the best interest of the common good you're in a nation which has lost control. Some could say you've really been conquered but aren't even aware...
  6. Rockson

    Would You Attend? I Would!

    On a certain level your reasoning is sound yes in a way it sends a message that brings balance. But really what would that look like. Floats in a parade showing a pride for being straight. You'd have to know even at that some of the antics might be pretty crude knowing it's worldly people...
  7. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I'd suggest you've bypassed however the deeper study you should have done about God using this analogy. He knew his fellow Jews already had learned about the Potter analogy from the home base of it's usage in Jeremiah 18 where the clay was given the choice....to obey and thus not be destroyed or...
  8. Rockson

    Pastor tells congregation to, "Love it or leave it!"

    I think I agree there's just something about putting a sign out with such a message which doesn't feel right. It's just too connected politically to a party or a President. I think if I was a Pastor if someone asked me what leader I should vote for I'd refer them to prayer.
  9. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I'm surprised you went with an answer like that. The sands of the sea shore would be trillions. Clearly God was using hyperbolic language unless you believe the population of Israel was the same. Seriously doubt it.
  10. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    And thank God they do! You know though Dave if you're going to quote Rom 9 that's fine. But you better quote the later chapters as well. Are you aware that the ones who were rejected in Rom 9 it is said they could still be grafted in? Nobody here is denying ones who choose to stay in...
  11. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    But it's not exaggeration with any attempt to deceive. It's just words used in a certain context that he considers all men should understand enough to capture the usage. Consider things like, Col 1:6, Jm 3:6, Jude 23, Jn 21:25, Matt 23:24 or 1 Kings 4:20 plus many, many others and that's not...
  12. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I Stated: If God truly did HATE sinners than how could God EVER exhort us to, "Love our enemies, and do good to them which hate us" ?? Obviously he couldn't. In fact he tells us to do it in that verse because HE DOES IT. God doesn't tell us to do something he himself doesn't do but there does...
  13. Rockson

    Is "cussing" REALLY "cussing"?

    I've thought about this subject periodically. What is it really about swearing that makes some feel they're speaking with more force or putting more strength into their speech. I wondered if this is really a western world thing? What about other places? I asked a friend of mine who was raised...
  14. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I'm confident I've already dealt with this. Hate or "abhor" all states of mind that even natural realm people can express about loved ones who hurt them. Does that mean they truly "hate" them? No. Even Agedman in his post 77, who somewhat agrees with your position of things has acknowledged on...
  15. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I think you and all of our Calvinist friends here need to understand how basic justice works. Justice must be fair and rewards, or penalties for adhering or not doing so to basic principles must apply to all. If favoritism is shown it's defined as unjust. Have you not ever heart there's a law...
  16. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    You've made an assertion. Now what do you base that on? What in showing mercy to only some show that he's love? What meaning are you seeking to convey in this? And you should consider that many consider the very things of holiness and righteousness would be made void if God were unjust and...
  17. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I think that's a rather forced interpretation of 2 Pt 3:3-10 but no I don't have any problem believing God might have restrained some actions that men might have carried out. Well for one it's not too easy to discuss just what happens with it comes to eschatology as there are so many varied...
  18. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    Exactly. Just like I mentioned "hate" is used in a hyperbolic way.
  19. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    Sorry but i contend it all flows out of the central truth....God is LOVE. Or can you envision a society that's lovely to be in that doesn't have right things (righteousness) in it? I think not. Justice or judgment sends out a message a LOVE state is going to be maintained. Without justice there...
  20. Rockson

    Double Predestination

    I think you better read again what I've said prior. Here it is in purple. "It's true the word "hate" is used but it's used in a metonymy or rather hyperbolic fashion. I'd kindly suggest one has to rightly divide the word of truth to know the difference. One might even say politically, "I hate...
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