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  1. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    If I understand correctly the subject we're discussing is whether man's will is free...is it independent from his actual nature or is his nature and will one and the same. The passage above I believe demonstrates they're different. His reasoning from his will aspect looks upon the law as good...
  2. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    Remain in Me,(Jesus said) and I will remain in you.(why tell them to remain if they couldn't do the opposite) Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who...
  3. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    Well hold on now. Great verse above but the way you would use it would be to say you who are a good tree, (as you would call it) you cannot sin. And yet you do sin. I'd hope that you're not going to claim you're sinless perfection. That scripture above is only a absolute reality as you choose...
  4. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    *sigh* Why not keep this in context? He is talking there about false prophets and what they'd produce and put out. The false prophets fruit is their teaching and in this verse it by no means is meant to be a proof text for Calvinistic total depravity. If you're going to handle the text that...
  5. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    Well Tyndale the big problem with using this analogy is that if you're going to go this way in saying spiritual death is the same as physical, because physical dead people can't respond therefore spiritual can't either well then you're going to have to go with every other aspect of it too...
  6. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    I don't believe those particular ones are from Matthew 13:13. He spoke in parables until the time appointed where all would be revealed which it appears was Acts 2. After that things were plainly laid out. We read in Acts 6:7 that even many of the Priest became obedient to the faith. The...
  7. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    I think you'd do well Aaron to go back and read that verse not just a part of it but all of it. Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs...
  8. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    There you go again! Cassidy is this really necessary? (I've boldened your words above) You pick a political group which let's admit most Christians Arminian and Calvinists alike feel are the enemy of the church and you link a non-Calvinist to such individuals. Will your demonizing of people of...
  9. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    No my friend...it's all about context, context, CONTEXT. Yes the Bible does say those things.You must keep in mind these scriptures are never used as when talking about the Gentiles but about Jews until after Christ had died and arose from the dead. In Acts 2:40 we read gospel light was being...
  10. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    What I said my dear brother was, And that's why one should not allow Calvinists to define the terms either. What does either mean to you? Doesn't it mean both sides? Yes they need to come to the table and discuss the reasons for defining terms in the way and manner they do and not merely...
  11. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    So why do Christians sin having a new nature? The fact is will isn't necessary connected to nature. There's a lot of people who want something better for their lives but don't have the power to do it. Just ask many people bound by many various vices. Their wills wants something different. Well...
  12. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    And that's why one should not allow Calvinists to define the terms either. What I see from most Calvinists is that they build their arguments that one with free will should be able to achieve anything. Not true and as for me I always seek to challenge them in defining it this way. Free will...
  13. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    Who said sinners were blinded to the truth when God brought to men the truth and the light. Jesus said to ALL, I am the way the TRUTH and the light! and his words were empowered. Jesus didn't say men rejected him because they didn't understand the truth. He said they reject him because they'd...
  14. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    No! Paul said himself that God's grace towards him had not been in vain for he labored more than others....which infers he could have been slack in his labor AND he encouraged others not to receive the grace of God in vain. 2 Cor 6:1 No being forced to serve God no irresistible grace making...
  15. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    Well that'd all depend on what you mean by determined Will of God. If someone were to say to God we're not allowing you to create the Heavens and the Earth I'd say no. If someone were to say that they don't want Jesus to come back doesn't matter what they want. Things like that are determined...
  16. Rockson

    I Believe In Free Will

    Haha! So Tyndale you come across like a Emperor from the ancient times who set up gladiators in the Colosseum and want to perch yourself up on a high chair and watch all the fun. Nope. Ain't going to happen. We're going to drag you down from there and get you in the game....remember now....you...
  17. Rockson

    Unlimited Atonement

    The one you're quoting from should have learned that the naturally minded men who were Christians and carnal 1 Cor 3: 1-3 couldn't understand the deep things of God. 1 Cor 2:10 It had nothing to do natural unsaved men not understanding the gospel as God would give the light TO ALL. Even Paul...
  18. Rockson

    Unlimited Atonement

    You're one to make such a charge to Pastor Bob when the other day you asked for your thread to be shut down with your following words, I have already once asked for this thread to please be locked. It's fruitless. So why couldn't we have said to you your position is exposed and has fallen...
  19. Rockson

    Unlimited Atonement

    But God gives spiritual enlightenment to all and they choose to either hate the light or accept it correct? That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. Jn 1:9 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than...
  20. Rockson

    Unlimited Atonement

    You're merely spinning words here and trying to lock them into a mode which proves Calvinism. Yes Jesus is the High Priest in the Holy of Holies...were aren't! Agreed. None of this demonstrates that the sinner doesn't need to receive God's grace by and act of their will.
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