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Do you believe that God, before the foundation of the world, preselected a particular number of people to save, and that he will irresistibly bring about their salvation leaving the rest to certain destruction?

With all due respect, I've spent much of my life studying theology, especially soteriology, and the fact that you don't spell the word correctly and think you can maintain the system while denying one of the most foundational components (effectual/irresistible call) reveals to me all I need to...

You might as well have said, "I'm a Calvinist, but I'm not a Calvinist." Is that the only reason? Would you think it was meritorious if we came to faith as a free response to the gospel appeal? If so, why? Why do some believers become Calvinistic and some don't? Why do some like some foods...

So, your answer is that God decreed that all mankind would be born with a totally depraved nature, making them unable to even respond to God's own appeal for reconciliation. Right?

Who decreed that man would receive a totally depraved nature as a result of the Fall, if not God?

He is depraved and he won't seek God, but that doesn't mean man can't respond to a God actively seeking him. Romans 3:10, Rom. 8:21, and many other text Calvinists falsely misapply, is referring to man's inability to attain righteousness by Law through works. Calvinists think these somehow...

MB and Saturneptune, I agree! :thumbs:

You may need to reread the OP.

Whether God is preventing them through imputing a nature upon them from birth making them unable to believe truth, or he is preaching parables so they don't understand the truth, the result is the same: He is not attempting to win them over, like Peter did in Acts. He is actually hardening...

I never said they all were. There was a remnant reserved from the hardening. I thought we went over this? I actually agree with this point, so I'm not sure what you think you are accomplishing here.

What does the word say? 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the...

I've heard some attempt to argue that we should evangelize more like Jesus, who was known for turning away people with his difficult messages (i.e. John 6). But was that one of Christ's purposes while on earth? Couldn't Jesus have preached a message as powerfully appealing and effective as...

And if you recall, I acknowledged that point when I said, "It certainly doesn't prove complete abstaining as a rule/law, which I know is not what you believe." However, this response was also for those reading along who have been making this point along the way... I'm sorry if it came across...

Allan, thanks for the article. I really don't have a problem with that content, because at least he is not attempting to argue wine is merely juice. While I might question the idea that Jesus turned water into '4 parts water and 1 part wine' rather than 'good wine' as was noted by the...

What is 'shining' then? Proclamation? We just keep going in circles with different terms, Luke. It was 'regenerate,' then 'effectuate' and then it was 'opening the eyes' and then it was 'moving' or 'quickening' or 'shining.' But in theological terms there are only two real things being...

1. So you don't recommend a good dessert? But what about the glutton with an eating disorder? 2. You don't recommend a medication? But what the person who could overdose on over the counter meds? 3. You don't recommend owning a gun? But what about the person who may use it for evil...

For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children." John 7:33-34...

Plus, if the wine of biblical times wasn't fermented, as some here seem to think, then why all the warning about not partaking too much of it? Were the biblical authors fearful of people getting drunk off juice? I can tell you that the Governor would have never said what he did about...

The Greek word for "grape juice" (trux) is not used in the New Testament so I don't believe it wouldn't be in Strongs. Wine by its very definition means 'fermented' and any extrapolations to try and avoid that fact is naive at best. It is like trying to argue there is 'clean filth' or...

Just for the record, I'm not the moderator who gave the infraction just in case someone is wondering... :)