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Let's take it one sentence at a time and I'll try to translate: "...What is sin is when those personal beliefs keep you from partaking in things that could save your life." - Luke Translation: Sin is abstaining for the wrong reasons (i.e. I think is a sin to drink because God forbids it). And...

According to some doctors, maybe... But this really isn't even about good health to me. Eating a browie now and then isn't for good health, it is for enjoyment and there is NOTHING wrong with that. I don't fish for my health, but for fun and there is NOTHING wrong with that. etc etc etc...

Luke 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.' 34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children."...

Exactly my point. "May" typically means 'might or might not.' That may be so...but I'm trying to find points of commonality and understanding. The question for me would be, "Why does the preacher 'advocate abstaining?' I agree, but that seems to me to be a misplaced argument based on a...

I understood that point and agreed with your post... I admit that I haven't read all of Luke's post on this thread, so I admit that I could be mistaken, but he did clearly state, "I have said no less than a half dozen times on this thread that it I do not begrudge anyone their right to...

Allan and Gina, As has been discussed before, I do believe Luke has a tendency to overstate his case...or do so in a relatively harsh manner, making it more difficult to accept or rationally discuss. He also tends to offend with his phrasing, as you both have pointed out. (I love him and...

I wasn't really even addressing the 'daily use' issue with my former comments. But, since you ask, I know my grandfather drank a small glass of red wine every night with his meal, doctor's orders, and he was not addicted. It helped him. I'm on the side of freedom, moderation, and...

Good thing you got saved and gave up that sinful vice, huh? ;) How do you come to that conclusion? Are you making an argument from silence because as far as I know there is no prohibition for alcohol in the scriptures. If there was I'd suspect someone like yourself would have it posted on...

Alcohol is ONLY addictive if it is abused, cocaine immediately alters the brain and is dangerous if not not administered by a doctor. Maybe a better comparison for you to understand this would be over the counter medication versus prescription. The reason they have prescription drugs is...

I don't think anyone is saying that Crabtownboy. As Romans 14 teaches, if you know that the weaker brother is abstaining then it would be best to abstain for his sake. I think we'd all be more than willing (and even insistent) on abstaining in the presences of someone who requests it or needs...

And I can tell you of many stories of people misusing fire and burning down homes, neighborhoods and even cities, but do we condemn the use of fire all together, or do we promote the proper use of fire? Same stories with guns, paint (which is huffed), markers (sniffed), sex and about a...

And 'shining' represents what theological concept? Could it be 'regeneration?' :sleeping_2:

Fallacy: Begging the question by presuming Alcohol can only be classified in the 'harmful' category when that is one of the points up for debate. As it has been shown, alcohol can also be beneficial and enjoyable. The 'weak' brethren referred to in Romans 14, were the believers whose...

Facts: "Inability of the prohibition law to enforce prohibition is causing an increase in the number of young boys and girls who become intoxicated," declared Judge H. C. Spicer of the juvenile court at Akron, Ohio, a short time ago when two boys, aged 15 and 16 years, respectively, were...

Tea? Ummmm...watch out for that caffeine, it will get you! ;)

Which is typically known as 'regeneration,' not 'shine.'

There are similarities, but that would be like equating my 380 handgun, used for personal protection, with a tank, used for a joy ride. Cocaine is a powerfully addictive stimulant that directly affects the brain. The pure chemical, cocaine hydrochloride, has been an abused substance for more...

Let's recap: To the elect alone, not to everyone who hears apart from extra divine preventative means. That is the difference. Did I say otherwise? It said Regeneration comes by the Gospel 'to the elect alone, and NOT to everyone who hears apart from extra divine preventative means...

What many don't seem to understand is that Christians are doing more harm than good by teaching that drinking alcohol is wrong. You are actually promoting alcoholism. The scripture is clear on this. Where the law increases, sin increases ALL THE MORE! Making alcohol a shameful thing and...

So, in your system you have... 1. God pleading with Himself to respond to His own pleadings through you. 2. God expressing his patience with Himself to respond to Himself through you. 3. God commanding for Himself to refrain from sin through you and when He doesn't, punishing you for not...