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I think Lordship salvation is true salvation that as Rev. Mitchell said, they have a heart truly for the Lord. Those that only see Jesus as their savior always refer to a past experience or a act they did years ago.

I wonder how big a boiling pot it would take to fit the preacher in ? :smilewinkgrin:

What does it mean to SUBMIT? Never ending Honey do's.

By looking at the expression's on the two African's faces, I wonder what their really thinking ?

I separated myself from what I once was as I was a free willer and believed in a universal atonement. When the Lord began to reveal to me his sovereign grace I could no longer stand in the pulpit and preach another gospel without being condemned and sick at heart. I walked away, burned my...

Ok, I will drop the kingdom of God and say kingdom, am I still wrong ? I have some PB literature some where that I think will back me up. I know the THE Baptist church I belong to but not active in believe when you are saved you are in the kingdom and then when you join the THE Baptist church...

Correct me if I'm wrong but PB's believe to enter into the kingdom of God is to join the PB church. So when you say a child of God is walking in disobedience and can be in false religion you are meaning churches other than PB.

I read those chapters and if one believed in falling from grace they could get plenty of ammunition, but I don't and I will admit that there once was a time when I did believe in falling from grace and these chapters were some of my favorite. This time I re-read them in the light of this thread...

So when do we get straight answers instead of all this mystic stuff ?

I retired from the state as being in corrections, and in the prison system the convicts are aloud to go to church meeting of volunteer ministers of different denominations. The Catholics seem to always draw the biggest crowds and once I ask a convict why he went to the Catholic services, his...

I think what he is saying is that the Jews although redeemed and were brought out of the bondage of Egypt were disobedient and God caused them to wander around in the wilderness for forty years till that generation died and they didn't inherit the promised land which was the land of Israel...

I'm against pot and alcohol or anything that will alter your judgment and change your personality. All of this drinking and smoking pot is fleshly desires and fleshly gratifications that should be avoided at all cost.

The meaning of my question is, from what I am reading in this thread is there are people that will go to heaven un-aware they were bought with the blood of Christ and therefore lived all their lifetime as the world does having no interest in the things of God.

Am I understanding you PB right that there are people here on earth that have the atonement of Christ blood on their soul's yet they come from the womb and go to the grave and never know it and further more never care for it ?

When a person drinks anything they want that drink to have an effect on them or has some benefit. We drink water for thirst, some drink coffee for the caffeine, people drink soft drinks for the taste, people drink alcohol for the buzz.

If Calvin did in fact have a man killed he and David have something in common.

Hear is another one, lordy lordy.

Also St. John 9th chapter about Jesus healing the blind man is contrary to people receiving healing and salvation at the same time.

In chapter nine of Matt the bible gives the account of the man sick of palsy, lying on a bed that was healed by Jesus. Notice what Jesus said to the man in verse two, Son, be of good cheer, thy sins be forgiven thee. Although the sick man was brought to be healed he also received forgiveness of...

A person that let's a talk board of any kind get them upset needs to get involved in something outside the internet. The internet is addictive and while it can be a source of relaxation, entertainment, learning tool, it can also rule your life. If people on a talk board new each other personally...