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The above.........Is the definition of a circular argument.

I agree with your statements...that is why I did not ask: "Did God have morally sufficient reasons" to command the slaughter of infants. I asked if It is permissible to slaughter infants in war. This, however, is an argument from consequences which is invalid...taken to its logical...

Abraham absolutely believed God meant a human sacrifice inasmuch as: 1.) that is precisely what God commanded him in plain language...he even said to burn him and the writer of Hebrews does everything in his power to prevent us from making this mistake when he says: 2.)Hbr 11:19 Accounting...

Depending on the context that it is used....say, as part of a vow or statement from a bride to a groom, this may be one of the most beautiful and theologically deep statements about marriage there is. Consider, this would have been prerequisite for Ruth to have landed Boaz.

:wavey::thumbs::jesus: I was wondering when someone would bring that up..the "knashing of teeth" described seems to suggest to me men remaining in an angry rebellion against God...unrepentant...and defiant. Good post.:applause:

I am sorry, can you explain the nuance between what you are saying and an "age of accountability" view? I might be missing something crucial....I have always subscribed to what is known as an "age of accountability" so to speak, yet I thought it was universally understood that: What is the...

John: Is it o.k. in warfare to butcher infants? Did God command the Israelites to do so in 1Sa 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. Given this, did God...

A Sovereign Choice to not interfere is not a failure to be in control. He can "cause all things to work together": This does not have to mean: "He causes all things" But you don't have to. A Sovereign choice by an Omnipotent God to refuse to interfere in certain circumstances does...

For Isaac's part yes, but the question was about God's command to Abraham, not Abraham's command to Isaac. . Indeed, but what does this have to do with God's direct un-mistakable command to Abraham to: Gen 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest, and...

Hmmm.....some very good posts on this thread, I will have to do some deeper research on this. It is hard to think of eternal torment for anyone, very hard. Only a sadist indeed wants that. Only a sadist would want a deserter (for instance) to be executed, but justice may require it. The...

That is almost precisely how I would word it myself..:thumbs:

If by "murder", you mean did God command Abraham to engage in a ritual of human sacrifice, otherwise utterly deplorable and permissible under no conditions...yes, God did indeed command Abraham to do that.

I would not say everything happens for a reason...at least not a reason that God intended...there is, for instance gratuitous evil, that God neither caused nor strictly intended. I do not think it was God's purpose for Satan to rebel, or man to sin...Indeed I would not even say that all bad...

It means you cannot erase a post through the editor, it was a double post.

O.K. busted...you win. But you could answer that question...so what if he is? you could leave him alone I suppose. He just asked a question, why would you even respond to it, and in a personally derisive manner, to suggest something horrifying about Yeshua/DaChaser-whoever. Don't be the pot...

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So what if he is?? Is it your usual modus operandi to take one antecedent statement and then attempt to force some form of conclusion from it?

I like you too much to enjoy bursting this bubble....but....this is not quite true in that Benjamin said: I was using the word "determined" in a more common parlance sort of way when I accepted the contention that things are "determined". I suppose I should not have...in order to avoid...

Oh, no, I think it very well might be a majority view....This Part: I meant to suggest that I would not claim that a majority of Molinists would assert my personal contention that: Or as you said: Yes, I would personally add that caveat WLC, seems to suggest this himself with this...

"Annihilation" as you speak of it, I would call tatamount to heresy. I do not use that word lightly, that is a non-negotiable doctrine.