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Good job rightly dividing the Word of Truth brother. Can any Calvinist here tell us what is wrong with this scripture...? Is 1:18-20 - "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they...

Jesus preached for about three years all throughout the region. Do you think these two thieves never heard of Jesus nor ever heard that He preached eternal life through belief that He was the Son of God? If you missed it, you have missed the entire NT preaching that was done everywhere for...

He's just trolling you brother. Get off the hook. He knows exactly what you are saying and knows you are absolutely correct. He's playing.

Exactly! He believes WE should explain his points. We are not in his head, HE must elaborate and explain himself.

Questioning a doctrine or POV is how the doctrine is tested. All questions can be answered. The answer will reveal the degree to which the POV has merit. In my Living Water thread the question is asked and still standing unanswered as to how one is made thirsty by receiving first the living...

Absolutely. If someone gives you this passage as an answer for how they know they are saved, they are relying upon their continued good works to get them in heaven.

:thumbs: I have been watching this back and forth and we are still waiting for an answer. But if this is Icon's answer, then he believes his good works are saving him.

They were saved by grace through faith to Paradise at some level of Heaven. Afterwards they were taken into the presence of the Father, after the death, burial, resurrection and glorification of Jesus Christ. You have to understand, regeneration is a NT implementation. God calls it the New...

:laugh: ".....that is what the text means" ? Why? Because they say so? They do nothing more than give their flawed opinion without substance to back it up. Your right, I do not accept their teaching on this because it goes directly against the Apostle's crystal clear teaching that the Holy...

It is your lack of clarification that gets you into trouble brother. You don't say we are not saved by His death and then later say well we are but not "only" by his death. I never said "only" by his death, so you are building up straw men to tear down, plus you are contradicting yourself by...

Glad you came around to my original comment and conclusion.... (I gave the sequence of the conversation in numerical order and I added some color for you) :smilewinkgrin:

Brother I perceive you are not like some here who just choose to ignore a portion of scripture just to save a doctrinal position. John through the Holy Spirit is very blunt, leaving no wiggle room for any misinterpreting on this point. The living water Jesus said He would give IS the Holy...

That is for you to reconcile with John. I already know the answer.... The Apostle John, who penned the Gospel of John on behalf of the Holy Spirit concerning this being born from above, declared this Spirit regeneration spoken of was not yet given. And you declare that it was. Now you want me...

John told us it is the giving of the living water (see verse 38). Thus, the title of this thread, can one be regenerated and not have the living water?

Been there done that. :smilewinkgrin: Always good to discuss scripture! :thumbsup:

Amen! And my point remains valid. Both Christ's death and His resurrection is what saves. I never said it was just His death. Blessings!

Resurrection from whence? From life? If there is no death, there is no resurrection. You need both. Rom 6:5 - "For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:" If you have not died with Christ in the likeness of His...

So Jesus didn't have to die for the elect to be saved?

From your subsequent post, I presume your answer is you choose to continue to beat the drum opposing John's statement.

How can anyone debate another with such a mixed up understanding of salvation? So one can be born of God and still be unsaved? Amazing!!