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If one is not able to believe it is because God has turned them over, blinding them because of their continued unbelief. Not all have been turned over into this state.

Election is the process by which God places believers in Christ. This process is the point of contention among we believers. Most understand there is a free will exercised in the process, many others see it as Calvin did. Both read and study their bibles. In the end it will only matter at the...

This passage is detrimental to the doctrine of Calvinism. As brother convicted demonstrated, even commentarians have to pull stuff out of thin air in order to attempt an understanding of the clear teaching that the living water was not yet given. Here is a fresh idea! How about we except what...

Verse 35 has nothing to do with the order of things given in the passage. You must take the whole in context. Verses 35 simply demonstrates that BOTH are present. Calvinism is doing the flipping. Yes, they are elected through belief, given to Christ, and are drawn, and come. There are no...

You are misinterpreting what Jesus said. As DHK already pointed out, it is a play on the concept of "work". No how should one take this answer from Jesus as meaning faith is something God makes you have. If one reads carefully the entire exchange on this subject, it will become clear that it...

Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is not a "good deed". It has nothing to do with performing any good works towards God. Eph chapter two makes the distinction between works and faith, Calvinism blurs the two, thus comes to a conclusion full of errors and sites passage after passage of "works"...

And that is just one of the errors embraced by Calvinism. I would like to see you support such view with scripture....as you said, it is your opinion, not scripture. Oh the extremes one must go to support doctrines of men...

Sooo....you believe if someone is a sinner, who is a slave...a servant of sin, must sin in absolutely everything they do? All of their choices are sin, they cannot choose to do right, all of their works are sin, even feeding and clothing their own children is sin? After all, they are servants...

You mean in the sense that one would still have the freewill to reject Jesus Christ and stop believing in Him? I once had a freewill choice to marry my lovely wife. I chose to say yes and marry her. Can I now choose to believe she is not my wife? Maybe I can choose to say she is not my wife, but...

The problem is, the OP is a passage on the unbelief Christ's atonement does not cover, but you want it to be about the unbelief sins that His atonement does cover. So, in light of the OP passage being on the unbelief not covered by the atonement, what is your response to the questions of the...

I take it from your examples of other passages that you believe they all were saved, belief or not.

So you are comparing the "dude" to those who fell in the desert in unbelief? Do you believe the dude was saved? If yes, then that is your answer to those who fell in the desert, God saved them all, belief or no belief. Interesting.....

Still doesn't answer the question. Did those who fell in unbelief still get saved?

The passage is pretty crystal clear. Do you think those who fell in the desert in unbelief are actually saved?

The OP is about salvation, stay on point......

The OP passage is on salvation.....

Well that is what I was trying to point out to his response. The OP is a passage speaking of salvation, KY jumped over to Christian sanctification.

That's not what I asked. I cannot stop believing in that which I have personal knowledge of is an absolute truth. I personally know Jesus Christ for He lives in me. How is it you say I could stop believing in Jesus Christ?

Really? So a born again believer can freely choose to not believe in Jesus Christ?

A question for our Calvinist friends; Why do you think the Holy Spirit waste so much written Word warning folks they better be sure to believe? Hebrews 3... Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of...