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Amen!! :thumbsup:

Brother, I would not want anyone to change their belief from Calvinism or whatever to the Biblical Doctrines of Sovereign Election and Grace based on my argument alone. However, I would hope that what I say might move them to a serious study of Scripture which may lead them to what I believe is...

Not sure you read the sermon so here it is with bolded emphasis....Now you PLEASE read carefully :smilewinkgrin:

Not sure I follow, so you are saying that TULIP does not teach that a person is saved through belief of the Gospel??? How then are they saved??? through unbelief???

John 1:12 says nothing about "they cannot receive Him". Why are you abusing God's Word in that way?? John1:12 - "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name".

Hmmmm, let's see, Willis word....God Word....Willis word....God Word...... Think I'll stick with the bible on this one.

Brother, you are waaaay off on this stance you have taken trying to make it a difference. God doesn't distinguish between created and formed, why are you? Gen1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them Gen2:7 - And the LORD...

EGW was obviously no prophet from God and it boggles the mind why anyone would give her "revelations" any consideration at all as being guided by God. However, it has nothing to do with these debates. I believe SDA exists because it is human nature to gather together with kin folk and close...

No, but let's get back to the OP sermon. Could you find a part you disagree with and tell my why? It seems no Calvinist so far find s fault with it, well, Willis did, but then he changed his mind and posted a :thumbsup:

I believe God when He says CRYS OUT.......... O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

Icon, is your reason for posting EGW's beliefs an attempt to discredit Bob's argument for every point he brings up in the Scripture? What then when Bob declares God is Triune? Will you argue against him on this also because he is an SDA? Look, you are a Calvinist, but this does not mean you have...

I believe Bob keeps repeating God's lament because you keep declaring it doesn't exist in the text. Maybe after the umpteenth time God will move upon you, opening your eyes that you may have space to repent and choose the obvious truth which most Christians clearly see. I think you probably...

And if you agree with that, you have no alternative than to believe that those who are speaking of another Jesus apart from your Jesus are not saved. You have no choice, you corner yourself.

Gen4:1 - "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

That's not one better and has nothing to do with the OP. Look at my OP sermon and point out which parts are not being honest and why. So far brother Willis agrees it is honest. No other Calvinist has yet opined, makes me believe it is right on the mark so far.......

You are very confusing brother. First you complain I do not understand Calvinism according to my sermon, and now you agree with it!! Make up your mind

Could you please point out which part or parts of the sermon you would disagree with and why?

Could you please point out which part or parts of the sermon you would disagree with and why?

Well, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So they would at least have to read the definitions of TULIP to them.

Well, that could possibly be a dumb question, problem is, that wasn't my question, so not sure where the "ignorance" actually lies there. But I will post my questions again for you.....actually it was a two part question in which you did not address the latter... "How could they be...