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By trying t achieve, by their devious method, what God had already ordained anyway.

One very important point that I have not seen discussed (may have missed it) . Before these guys were born, Rebekah questions God about her coming offspring: In reality Rebekah & Jacob were trying to acheive what God had already promised would be. Just like Abraham & Sarah when Isaac was...

I pick option "C" - all of the above. You do realize that you are asking for some similance of "common sense" here do you not? Not very likely to be forthcoming from the abortion industry & its supporters. However, I do remember reading that, in Britain IIRC, that there is a strong push for...

Beg to differ; there was a Republican majority, not a conservative majority.

Welcome to a fallen world!! Agreed that it should not be the main point, but in all honesty does anyone here truly believe that Clinton's feminism would not play some role in her decisions? Likewise Obama's race? Likewise Romney's mormonism? I guess what I'm asking is, if you (any one of you...

Can't answer for anybody else, but Bush was by far the best choice for me in the last two elections, and it was not cause I "love" him; not as you use the term. As far as hating McCain - well I certainly hope you are just using literary license here, cause I don't hate him, just don't like his...

HB, check your private messages.

Look at the state of the society today as compared to 50 years ago! Morality, ethics, honor, acceptance of responsibility, etc, etc, etc are far more degraded than then. I notice that you are in your mid 50’s so most likely by the time you were becoming aware of the morality (to cover all...

Considering the tone of your post, I assume this is a rhetorical question!:BangHead: If you are truly seeking some type of rational response, please accept my apology and rephrase the question! Thanks!!

Some very good points brought out in this thread; (a few roses among a multitude of thorns as it were) but, unfortunately, one theme seems to dominate - "the next president/congress will determine the fate of this nation". To a large extent this IS true, and as a Christian basically the only...

The last 8 years will look like the Garden of Eden compared to the next 8 (?) after a liberal wins the top prize (which I DO anticipate); and even more so should they retain control of both houses. A mosquito bite is a real irritation - until one is stung by a hornet!! You've been irritated...

Been thinking along these same lines; America is in for a rude awakening I'm afraid. Unfortunately, I believe this regardless of the "winner", but this one will, IMNSHO, be the worstest of the lot! His charisma has duped a lot of folks, but the day of reckoning WILL come. MARANATHA; and the...

Your sig line seems very appropro for this response!!!:applause:

Hmmmmmmm!! Clinton IS believable, but Tim is NOT???? Curiouser & curiouser are the opinions emanating from this thread!!

Well m'friend, I'm 71 and have no idea what this term means,so please elaborate. I may have done it, participated in it or observed it, but never being aware that it was "lining songs out".

Hey, in trying times one does whatever is necessary to survive; lame humor, bland jokes, weeping, moaning, et al, ad infinitum!!:sleeping_2::praying::tear:

I very strongly suspect that we all are going to be "in for a rude awakening", no matter who, or which side, gets in this time!!! MARANATHA!!!!

Yup! I totally agree with you. Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Basically, this is, IMNSHO, exactly what our esteemed(?) former POTUSes are doing with all this "unity"...

Elijah 2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. Enoch Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took...

What we NEED is for government to quit trying to be "all things to all people", and get back to it's constitutional basis!!!:BangHead: That's the political side!! What we NEED far more is to get back to Christ!!!