Praying the Rosary

In other words, you can find nothing in the Bible to justify your pagan prayers.

Right. A Baptist who calls Mary the "Queen of Heaven" and believes in Catholic rituals and doctrines.

Yeah, you're a regular AW Pink.

 

Actually, she doesn't hear any of them. As I said earlier, they don't go past the ceiling.

Mindlessly reciting a prayer is wrong.

And we don't know anything about the beings covered with eyes, except they are Seraphim, a type of being higher than angels.

 

or maybe modern Day Spurgeon?

 

Source please.

---> e.g. A Catholic magisterial document and or liturgy where Mary is believed to be a goddess.

Lex orandi, lex credendi.

The same way the angels and other saints in heaven can: God makes it possible in a way that transcends language.

Luke 15:7 ---> "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."

Luke 15:10 ---> "So it is, I tell you, with the angels of God; there is joy among them over one sinner that repents."



These words of Jesus demonstrate that God enables communication between the Church on Earth and the Church triumphant in heaven. The angels and saints in heaven are able to rejoice over a sinner repenting here on Earth only if they have been made aware - via God - of that person's (sinner) innermost thoughts. Otherwise, they would not be rejoicing over their repentance. For you cannot rejoice in good news you are not aware of.

So repetitious prayer is ok, so long as it is not in vain? I don't disagree.

So God doesn't mind those in heaven using repetitious prayers, just those on earth?

That makes sense. (Sarcasm)

 

Maybe Protestants should remove Psalms 103 and 143, where David invokes the "heavenly hosts", the "angels", those "from the heavens" and those "in the heights above.

Then maaybe Protestants should remove John 11 and Acts 9, for Jesus and St. Peter both speak to the dead Lazarus and the dead Tabitha.


Lastly, maybe Protestants should stop writing R.I.P on their loved ones' tomb stones.

 

Sorry, but there are NO EXCEPTIONS listed by St. Paul in Romans 3. "All" either means "ALL" without exception, or St. Paul is simply using inclusive language.

You can't have it both ways.

Wisdom 1:4 ---> "For wisdom will not enter into a malicious soul, nor dwell in a body subject to sin."


Who does Scripture call wisdom? ---> 1 Cor 1:24, 30

In whose body did wisdom dwell? ---> Luke 1:31


If Christ is the wisdom of God and if Mary is the person in whose body he dwelt, then there is your answer.

 

Baptists have our own beads for prayer-prompting:

Women's Missionary Union of the Southern Baptist Convention

 

Prayer shawls are also quite popular in Baptist churches.

It should come as no surprise that material creatures would use material things.

To be an anti-sacramentalist is really contrary to our nature.

 

my own as a boy i was raised catholic, catechism first holy communion, confirmation.
I was never told Mary was any less than a goddess. i was taught the same attitudes of respect, taught to assume her omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence etc as Jesus. kneeling before her statue, making the sign of the cross, making my request, thanking her, sign of cross...

wrong! more popish psychobabble which leads to people praying to others than GOD Himself.

Exodus 20
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Again this does not mean you can assume you can pray/communicate directly with those not residing here on planet earth.

since at the time of this response to your statement, i am earthbound i will pray for you and your possible learning disability (Depending upon the object of your sarcasm).
the passage in question is probably metaphorical (their wings, their eyes, their persistence in proclaiming His Holiness).

 

The Rosary is the second most powerful set of prayers after the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass... why wouldn't you pray it?

 

Idolater, not per the scriptures, pagan worship!

 

O God, whose only begotten Son, by His life, death, and resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal salvation. Grant, we beseech Thee, that while meditating on these mysteries of the most holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, that we may both imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through Christ our Lord. Amen.

 

Can you point me to anything in the Catechism, Bible, liturgical prayers or anything from the Catholic Church which teaches Mary is a goddess?

Do you know what a straw man is?

So Jesus was mistaken that those in heaven are not aware of the prayers and thoughts of the faithful here below?

What about St. John? He records the saints interceding for us in heaven in his Apocalypse. Could he too be mistaken?

Do you see the irony in your posting this verse? You violate verse 4 by the sheer fact that you have an avatar of a likeness of that which is on the earth, a man.

It supports the Christian belief in the Communion of Saints.

Nice ad hominem. Do you typically accuse those with whom you disagree with having learning disabilities?

 

Jesus is the God/Man and is the exception. You can't hide from Hebrews 4:15. Jesus was the only begotten/unique/one of a kind Son of God (John 3:16). Mary is included in "all." She rejoiced in "God her Savior," so you also can't hide from Luke 1:47 either.

 

We must focus on Jesus alone!

 

Pray with sincerity that what you do, say and think is within God's revealed will. God can bless such thoughts and actions.

My motto: Neither condemn what God condones nor condone what God condemns.

 

No one is disputing the words of Hebrews 4:15. (That is called moving the goal post.)

Your original objection was that St. Paul made no exception to "ALL" in Romans 3:23. Recall...

"Romans 3:23 clearly states - ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Notice it doesn't say all 'except [sic] Mary.'" - Your words


Notice Paul makes no exceptions. So, either Jesus is included in "ALL" in Romans 3:23 or St. Paul is simply using inclusive language. You can't have it both ways.


Luke 1:47 was addressed in a previous post.

 

I already proved my argument from scripture, but you have your agenda. Moving on..