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[Cathode]

And since people couldn’t read and mass was held in the dead language of Latin, which even many priests couldn’t understand, the corrupt RCC replaced the truth of scripture with their many false doctrines.

No, this is ridiculous. You couldn’t become a priest without knowing your Latin, Latin was the ordinary language of the Church, still is.
Being a dead language was actually beneficial, because words don’t change their meaning over time as with living languages.

The People knew Ecclesiastical Latin because of its constant use in Mass and the priests catechising them generationally.
My own parents grew up understanding the Mass in Latin from early childhood, I understand the Latin Mass.
The priests preached the Gospels in the vernacular languages anyway, and homilies were always in the vernacular languages explaining the Scriptures with singular interpretation handed down from the Apostles.

The real corruption occurred when Luther suggested each ploughboy and his dog should subjugate scripture to his opinions and formulate his own doctrines from them.

The twisting of scripture has not ended among them since they are all self appointed Popes.
Yes a priesthood of all believers, but not a Popehood of all believers as we see among Bible aloners.
The lawlessness of each man subjugating The Holy Word of God to his snot nosed subjective opinion, creating his own doctrines of men is not the truth of Scripture.

The corruption and falsehoods in Bible alone Protestantism are endless, every wind of doctrine can be obtained from them.

I say I am Catholic people know exactly what I believe.

People say they are “ Bible alone “ I don’t know what the hell they believe, I’ve heard countless crazy interpretations and doctrines, and I know I’m far from hearing them all.

 

[Cathode]

No. There are very few "Bible aloners".

Few people follow the doctrines and interpretations of the father of the Bible alone idea.
Luther would likely have burned you at the stake.

Every Bible aloner says “there are very few Bible aloners”. There seems to be an elitism among them all, each looking down upon the other. I’ve seen it, not just in outward gesture but spiritually.
Each claiming superior knowledge and understanding over the others, each congratulating themselves that their opinions of scripture are so aligned with the truth.
Amazing. Amazing how their opinions could feel so truthy.

 

[JonC]

Few people follow the doctrines and interpretations of the father of the Bible alone idea.
Luther would likely have burned you at the stake.

Every Bible aloner says “there are very few Bible aloners”. There seems to be an elitism among them all, each looking down upon the other. I’ve seen it, not just in outward gesture but spiritually.
Each claiming superior knowledge and understanding over the others, each congratulating themselves that their opinions of scripture are so aligned with the truth.
Amazing. Amazing how their opinions could feel so truthy.

Luther probably would have, if the Catholics didn't catch me first.

He and Calvin had too much Catholic in them (they believed in compelled conversions and a marriage of secular government to the church).

While there is, of course, one correct interpretation Scripture does not insist on one interpretation. Instead Scrioture itself addresses Chriatians congregations holding different interpretations and practices. This is different from simply adding to God's Word doctrines that are not present.

 

[Cathode]

Luther probably would have, if the Catholics didn't catch me first.

He and Calvin had too much Catholic in them (they believed in compelled conversions and a marriage of secular government to the church).

Luther condemned Ulrich Zwingli because Zwingli was the first deny Baptism and the Eucharist calling them merely symbolic.
These were central tenets and universal constants of Christianity from the beginning.
But this is the devolution that was caused by the new revolutionary heresy of scripture alone that Luther invented.
Zwingli thought that he was fully justified in his doctrines and denials from the Scriptures.
Each man was now arbiter of Truth from his own opinions of scripture, each founding his own church on his opinions of scripture.
This is Lawlessness we do not see in the Church Scripture talks about.

While there is, of course, one correct interpretation Scripture does not insist on one interpretation. Instead Scrioture itself addresses Chriatians congregations holding different interpretations and practices. This is different from simply adding to God's Word doctrines that are not present.

No, Paul states very clearly for people to hold to the traditions taught by them, whether by word of mouth or letter.

Not interpret the writings alone for yourselves and come up with your own doctrines.

Peter explicately warns against this.

“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

Protestantism does exactly what scripture condemns in subjecting scripture to each man’s own opinions. It doesn’t hold to the Oral and Written traditions handed down.

Nowhere in scripture does the church behave like Bible alone Protestantism. Even though churches were geographically separated, they maintained the same Apostolic Faith handed on to them by word of mouth and letter.

 

[JonC]

Luther condemned Ulrich Zwingli because Zwingli was the first deny Baptism and the Eucharist calling them merely symbolic.
These were central tenets and universal constants of Christianity from the beginning.
But this is the devolution that was caused by the new revolutionary heresy of scripture alone that Luther invented.
Zwingli thought that he was fully justified in his doctrines and denials from the Scriptures.
Each man was now arbiter of Truth from his own opinions of scripture, each founding his own church on his opinions of scripture.
This is Lawlessness we do not see in the Church Scripture talks about
No, Paul states very clearly for people to hold to the traditions taught by them, whether by word of mouth or letter.

Not interpret the writings alone for yourselves and come up with your own doctrines.

Peter explicately warns against this.

“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

Protestantism does exactly what scripture condemns in subjecting scripture to each man’s own opinions. It doesn’t hold to the Oral and Written traditions handed down.

Nowhere in scripture does the church behave like Bible alone Protestantism. Even though churches were geographically separated, they maintained the same Apostolic Faith handed on to them by word of mouth and letter.

I think you misunderstood my post. There are doctrines that are essential (the gospel) and this is where the RCC becomes "anti-christ" and demonic. But there are other issues which are matters of interpretation. It is to the latter that Scripture allows variance in interpretation, commanding us not to judge others congregationd because Christ "will make them stand".

I know Luther and Calvin denied biblical baptism. Zwingli initially sided with Scripture but ultimately returned to Catholic baptism. They were too indoctrinated in Roman Catholic paganism and did not - as the non-Catholics during the Reformation period stated - go far enough from the Catholic Church in their desire for reform.

Individual Christians should not come up with their own interpretations. I agree. But at the same time they should not blindly follow doctrines of men. You are the only one speaking about people following personal interpretation. It is a strawman argument.

Now I must follow my own suggestion and stop casting pearls before swine.

My last advice to you is to consider mire carefullu exactly who it is you will follow. Catholicism is so shallow a faith and the path you are on misses the spiritual depth of true life. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy


Peace to you, @Cathode .