Featured Have Any Spiritual Gifts Ever "Died Out"?

Like I anticipated, you really didn't want a well thought out response backed up with Scripture. It was all bluff and bluster.
Your post in #187 says:

And you have repeated it a number of times.
So I took your bait and gave you the answer, and then I gave it to you with the Scriptures added in with further explanation.
The result--rejection--just as I predicted.
You are unteachable. You don't want to hear the truth. Why are you even here? It is certainly not to learn.

 

Do yopu hold that the gifts died out in the Church due to unbelief, but that God restored them fully back to the Church, in order to have that 'NT church without spot or wrinkle" right before the Second Coming?

 

So you hold they have never ceased in the church, just died down due to unbelief? So what was God actually doing in 1905 in your opinion?

 

The Azusa Street Revival was a historic Pentecostal revival meeting that took place in Los Angeles, California and is the origin of the Pentecostal movement.[1] It was led by William J. Seymour, an African American preacher. It began with a meeting on April 9, 1906, and continued until roughly 1915. The revival was characterized by ecstatic spiritual experiences accompanied by miracles, dramatic worship services, speaking in tongues, and inter-racial mingling. The participants were criticized by the secular media and Christian theologians for behaviors considered to be outrageous and unorthodox, especially at the time. Today, the revival is considered by historians to be the primary catalyst for the spread of Pentecostalism in the 20th century.

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THAT is the event that launched modern day Charasmatic chaos!

 

This might help:

Read the entire article here:
http://www.wayoflife.org/database/strangehistory.html

 

I have mentioned Parham and Seymour here many times.

It seems to me the question that any serious seeker of truth should be asking is this: How can any movement founded on such blatant twisting of scripture and falsehood lay claim to any validity whatsoever?

 

You cannot use ANY scripture to prove your experience though, the ONLY thing you left to rely upon would be the teachers/pastors in the "Movement!"

Based upon what you know, can you really say the HS was in the 1905-06 revivals?

 

you have given to us misunderstanding of the scriptures basically, using your own experiences and emotions to "proof text' them to support your theology!

Do you belong to a Charasmatic baptist church?

Are your pastor/teachers charasmatic also?

Do yuo have prophesying/tongues in services?

 

You do follow this movement, and whether directly or indirectly you have admitted that you do. You have given testimony that since the first century the "church" has remained in unbelief for 1900 years until 1905 when the "church" started to believe once again in the spiritual gifts, or as you put it, "the manifestation." You used the "1900 years" date yourself. What were you referring to? You have some knowledge of this; don't claim ignorance now.

You claimed that the church was in darkness until about 100 years ago. Why? Obviously that is when the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement in which you are involved started. You are a part of it. You are a part of the movement which has its roots in paganism, not in the Bible. For that 1800 period (to be more precise end of the 1st century ca. 100 A.D. -1905), there is no history of the Biblical gift of speaking in tongues. Neither you or we can provide any evidence of that gift. Thus we both must agree on that point.

But we can provide you with much evidence of great revivals, the Holy Spirit working mightily upon many different individuals, missionaries going to foreign nations and bringing revivals to different nations, etc. Yet, you will deny all of this history, because you say for 1800 years the "church" was in unbelief. Truly astounding!!

Again your theology is based on your experience.
You are one confused individual.

 

The gifts to do tongues/miracles/healings ceased with john death, but the Lord still gives giftss to us to teach/preach/give/lead etc!

those sign gifts not needed any more, but the rest of them are!

And was just curious if yoyur church opennly practiced thiose gifts you claim to have!