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  1. Lodic

    The popular TV Video series "The Chosen".....

    I watched a Christmas episode on YouTube, and it was okay. Some friends from church and men's Bible study enjoy it, but like you, I have not been at ease with it. The passages you quote make an excellent point. The collaboration with the LDS is good enough reason to avoid it for me.
  2. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    I agree that this article is both interesting and well-written. I understand the author's (and yours) views, but I completely disagree with the conclusions you have drawn. To reiterate my earlier point, Jesus was teaching about the cost of discipleship, not about how to dispose of the body at...
  3. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    I was just doing a little more study regarding Amos 2:1-3, where God brought judgment on Moab for burning the bones of the king of Edom. This is a point where understanding the culture is important. Such burning indicated special contempt, and was thought to deprive the dead of peace in the...
  4. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    While I still disagree with your conclusions, your response helps me understand where you are coming from. You already know my stance, so I am content to part as brothers in Christ who disagree on some topics. Take care.
  5. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    Jumping back in with the same question that @canadyjd has been asking. Does Jesus say what the consequences are if His followers do not bury the bodies of our loved ones? If so, please elaborate. Where do we find these further details? Question open to either you or to @CalTech, or anyone...
  6. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    As Wesley said to Princess Buttercup in "The Princess Bride" - "As you wish". Take care.
  7. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    Are you interested in a discussion, or just an echo chamber? We can discuss in depth why we take our views, but only if you are willing.
  8. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    I'm not paraphrasing what Jesus said at all. I am using the entire context to support my views, which shows what Jesus was actually teaching. Has nothing to do with actually burying the dead, but what it means to live totally committed to Christ. You are picking out the "burial" phrases and...
  9. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    Actually, it is by paying attention to the context that I see Jesus is not teaching about burial, but about what it means to follow Him. This goes beyond simply "Follow Me", or even "Preach the Kingdom". This is about the commitment we must give Him as His disciples. Somehow you keep missing...
  10. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    I believe you are focused on the wrong thing. Following Jesus - not Burial - is the subject of both passages in context. Just for the sake of our discussion, let's say that Jesus said that we are to bury our dead. This seems to be a continuation of the "Cremation" thread, so I will point out...
  11. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    My point is that these passages are not about burial at all. Jesus is teaching that those who follow Him must be fully committed.
  12. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    The context reveals Jesus is talking about following Him, and not simply about burial. Why do you believe this is important?
  13. Lodic

    What Do Matthew 8:22 and Luke 9:60 Teach about Burial?

    The context of these two parallel passages reveals that Jesus is not teaching about burial, but about being fully committed to following Him. He is clearly teaching about the importance of leaving everything behind in order to follow Him. In both of these cases, the sense is that the one...
  14. Lodic

    The Disciples of Christ and cremation, what does the Lord say about it?

    For my wife and I, the disposal of the remains and the funeral are not for the dead person, but for the ones we leave behind. What do I care if she wants my remains cremated? It's more important to me that she does what is best for her. If she wants me in a burial plot to come visit the...
  15. Lodic

    Prophecy Passages of the Church Fathers

    Since the Early Church Fathers were much closer to the time of Christ, I believe it's very important to be familiar with their views of prophecy. I have read "The Early Church and the End of the World" by Gary DeMar & Francis X. Gumerlock. Needless to say, their views were quite different from...
  16. Lodic

    In what area's of life should disciples of Christ be concerned with?

    For me, any teacher / pastor that does not stray from the core Christian doctrines (Man is Sinful; Trinity; Christ the only Way for Salvation, etc.) is okay. Differences regarding whether we should get involved in politics, views on the "End Times", Arminianism vs Calvinism - are interesting to...
  17. Lodic

    In what area's of life should disciples of Christ be concerned with?

    I have provided some Scriptures supporting my views, and @Darrell C has provided lots of views in support of our views. My main point with the JWs is to point out that just because one group or person shares a view with you doesn't mean you agree with everything they say. So what if I agree...
  18. Lodic

    In what area's of life should disciples of Christ be concerned with?

    First, I apologize for accusing you of condemnation. That was not fair of me. I should have simply stated that I disagree with your interpretation of those Scriptures. Second, I am not trying to bait you into a debate. However, you still haven't answered my questions. Let's forget about...
  19. Lodic

    In what area's of life should disciples of Christ be concerned with?

    Setting aside whether or not Washington was a true disciple of Christ, you didn't answer my question. Obviously, if God was not with the 13 Colonies, the Revolution would have failed completely. Just as Hezekiah had to implore God's help against Syria's superior forces in Isaiah 37, Christians...
  20. Lodic

    In what area's of life should disciples of Christ be concerned with?

    By that reasoning, Christians would never have participated in the Revolutionary War - which would have left out the very devout Christian General Washington. Yet, God granted victory to 13 weak colonies against the greatest military might of the 18th century. Hmmm - history shows your view...
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