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  1. Skandelon

    Can we discuss Kenosis?

    A. Christ has SELF-EXISTENT life. John 1:4 "In Him was life" John 14:6 "I am the Life" Acts 3:15 "the Prince (Author) of life" B. Christ is ETERNAL. Isaiah 9:6 "the everlasting Father" (or "the Father of eternity") Micah 5:2 "whose goings forth have been of old, from everlasting" Compare John...
  2. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    That is right. God never works that way to change the will of man. Even in those times we do see God actively intervene to ensure His purposes are carried out, He does so through relatively normative means. For example, he could have just supernaturally made Jonah want to go to Nineveh by...
  3. Skandelon

    Can we discuss Kenosis?

    Goinheix, I think you have taken a good point of discussion regarding how Christ "emptied" himself to become "fully man" to such an extreme that you have stepped over the line into clearly false doctrine. (most assuredly not Baptist doctrine) As jbh and others have explained Jesus was "in...
  4. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    Only those who would deny that the Gospel message IS a powerful working of the Holy Spirit would deny the need of it in order to believe. How can they believe in whom they have not heard? What ability do you have that you take credit for Aaron? Are you musical, artistic, athletic, or anything...
  5. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    I would never say it like that. Faith lying dormant? That makes no sense, really. You are overcomplicating things. Someone hears God's appeal for them, an enemy and sinner, to be reconciled to God and they decide if they want to believe that truth or trade it in for a lie. If they go on...
  6. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    Mandy, my question for you would be this: Why would God create a man with the ability to place their faith in a false god, but not the real One after both have been clearly revealed to him? Wouldn't that be a perfect excuse for those who don't believe in the one true God? Couldn't a Buddhist...
  7. Skandelon

    Kenosis and Hypostasis

    Yes, I requested this one be moved back but it may be easier to repost a new one. Again, sorry for the mix-up
  8. Skandelon

    I am baptist

    I was given bad info and I apologize. I do not moderate the other forum thus do not have the ability to move it back. Goinheix is a baptist. Again, please forgive me for not double checking this before moving your post.
  9. Skandelon

    Kenosis and Hypostasis

    I apologize to Goinheix for moving this post. I was given bad information. But, I do not moderate this forum thus do not have the authority to move it back. Again, I am sorry. Goinheix is a baptist.
  10. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    How did the Adam Clarke quote along with all the answers I gave you not suffice? To some "natural" means "on your own," but I don't believe we we have faith in Christ "on our own." As JF correctly explained, we must be graced by the gospel to believe upon Christ unto Salvation; and since...
  11. Skandelon

    Can we discuss Kenosis?

    Apologies from me as well, I should have double checked with you before moving the post.
  12. Skandelon

    is Kenosis a Baptist doctrine?

    Goinheix, Only Baptists are permitted to post in this forum, that is why your post was moved. Thank you.
  13. Skandelon

    What theology "name" to those who deny God needs To "Grace" those saved?

    I wouldn't take issue with that description, however some on both sides of the debate would argue that God's grace (whether prevenient or effectual) is ONLY applied THROUGH the means of the Gospel. They do so because, like me, they recognize the incontrovertible biblical evidence that the power...
  14. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    Adam Clarke, someone else who must be an idiot because he didn't agree with Aaron, says it this way:
  15. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    You caught me. I'm an idiot. Feel better about yourself now?
  16. Skandelon

    What is meant by Cals when they ask: do you believe "by our own ability?"

    I need you to explain this last one to me before I can respond. If you affirm that regeneration precedes faith, which I assume you do, then once a man is given a new heart why must God then also "give him faith?" Wouldn't his having a new nature simply make him want to believe in the God who...
  17. Skandelon

    Is Calvinism's "Total Inability" and Biblical Hardening Compatible?

    That may be true, but your consistency in expressing those views in terms that we all can follow is what is in question. I agree with the poster who said, "So, we may freely say that God ordains sin, but He doesn't cause it. As one of my seminary professors put it: God stands behind good (ie...
  18. Skandelon

    What theology "name" to those who deny God needs To "Grace" those saved?

    I just mean a relative few...compared to those who perish. Not in the way I explained. How can they really reject something they weren't granted the ability to hear, see, understand and accept?
  19. Skandelon

    What theology "name" to those who deny God needs To "Grace" those saved?

    The permission is strongly implied in the appeal. No reason biblically to believe it isn't granted to all who hear the gospel. And, no, don't point to John 6 because those people hadn't yet received the gospel and thus hadn't yet been enabled. It wasn't until after he was lifted up that he...
  20. Skandelon

    What theology "name" to those who deny God needs To "Grace" those saved?

    If that is the way you want to believe it happens, fine, but either way the GRACE is being applied THROUGH the Gospel. For you it is applied irresistibly to a select few, for me it is as universal as the Gospel appeal, but can be rejected or "traded in for a lie."
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