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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Jun 26, 2021.

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  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    James 2:24, "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone"

    The nearest you can get!
     
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    Answer my question, what do you see as the difficulty? I do not see any problem between being justified without works. And those who are already justified without works also being justified by works, Ephesians 2:8-10.
     
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    By all means categorize them for us:

    13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: Ro 2
    24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Ro 3
    1 Being therefore justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ;
    9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. Ro 5
    33 Who shall lay anything to the charge of God`s elect? It is God that justifieth; Ro 8[
     
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    If you don't hold to the unscriptural notion of justification by faith alone there is no difficulty.
     
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    Judas the son of Israel.
     
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    Not in the KJV.
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    KJVO! :Laugh
     
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    Try 2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

    What is your view of scripture then if you do not believe it is God breathed??
     
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    Prove salvation is not really a gift and faith alone without works is false in order to be saved.
     
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    So, what do you think? Was Paul going senile?:

    13 …the doers of the law shall be justified...Ro 2

    20 ...by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified... Ro 3
     
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    that single verse that says "Justification by faith ALONE" is NOT God breathed!!! Becaused it is NOT in the Bible
     
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    ???
     
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    as usual you don't know what you are on about! :Geek
     
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    No because both statements are true. Your difficulty seems to be not believing that no one is ever been justified by verse 13 except Jesus.
     
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    Wow. Explaining again is not going to cause you to hear what you do not accept.
     
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    The mistake would have to be in a CT interpreted bible.like esv
    Jas 2:24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
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    I've resolved apparent difficulties years ago.

    Do you consider yourself as a doer of the law? Are you justified? Is God going to render to you according to your works, eternal life?
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, they add merit and law to salvation as synergists.
     
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