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  1. steaver

    The Millions Who Never Had a Choice

    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" (Ro 1:20)
  2. steaver

    The Millions Who Never Had a Choice

    The Calvinist on this board seems to have difficulty seeing the theological reality, implications and problems of their position.
  3. steaver

    The Millions Who Never Had a Choice

    "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" (Matt 23:37) Actually it is Calvinism which places limits on the...
  4. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Those "phases" are man's opinion. I did not see much substance presented to support it. Do you really think Peter thought Cornelius was already saved before he talked with him?
  5. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Peter contends Cornelius was unsaved and needed to hear the gospel. I happen to believe Peter. So why would finding any other unsaved folks in the bible who feared God and had prayers answered help your position? It is you who assume God fearing folks are saved. Yet Peter tells us that is not...
  6. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Peter claims Cornelius was not saved and needed to hear the gospel to be saved. So what are you going to do? Adjust your theology to that of Peter, or continue to stick with Cornelius being saved, against Peter's testimony, just because he feared God and had prayers heard?
  7. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    You keep saying Cornelius was saved before Peter came to him. Here is how Peter recited the account of what happened to the Jews who contended with him for going into the Gentiles... "And he (Cornelius) shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to...
  8. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    He already gave you Cornelius.
  9. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    DHK's post above has annihilated Calvinism's position on regeneration.
  10. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    As I said, you are not paying attention to the distinctions I have made.
  11. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    First you would have to accept the biblical teaching that regeneration began after Jesus Christ was glorified. That alone proves man's choice to believe God leads to man being born again by the Living Water. Abraham believed God, yet died in faith not having received the promise. "These all...
  12. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    I'm not being inconsistent, but rather you are not making the correct distinctions of what I am saying. The Holy Spirit indwelling IS saving faith, IS regeneration, IS eternal life, IS born again, IS born of God, IS conversion, IS Christ in you. There IS no which came first the chicken or the...
  13. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Abraham, David, Moses, Jacob, Isaiah, etc, etc, etc. All were unregenerated. Died in faith awaiting the promise of the New Covenant. Please provide the scriptures which state any of these where born-again, which is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. And no one has yet taken on John8:31. These...
  14. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Sorry brother, but never does it say he was regenerated. Calvinism has to assume that in order to survive. In fact we know from the scriptures regeneration began with the New Covenant.
  15. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    "Some activity of the Holy Spirit before saving faith"??? This is not a Calvinism exclusive you know. The Holy Spirit must draw before saving faith. The activity of the Holy Spirit before saving faith is not the Spirit indwelling, it is the Spirit drawing. So the answer would be NO. Did I pass...
  16. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    I'm sorry, but it simply amazes me that Calvinism, which believes it has the perfect theology and pats itself on the back, totally misses the fact that Regeneration IS being Born-Again. Regeneration, born-again, conversion, Holy Spirit indwelling, Holy Spirit seal, eternal life, Christ in you...
  17. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    The Spirit indwelling IS regeneration. We been over this. Johnny Mac and John Piper understand this and they are Calvinist through and through. This erroneous premise that regeneration and Spirit indwelling are two separate acts of God is what is causing so much of your misunderstanding of many...
  18. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Lol. 1John is perfectly clear in the context of the full counsel of Gods Word. Whosoever believes Jesus is the Christ has been born of God. What's the problem? Saving faith comes through being indwelt by the Holy Spirit through rebirth. This is why you keep on believing and cannot ever stop...
  19. steaver

    The Problem of Regeneration Preceding Faith

    Yea for spurgeon! No dodging. You have to understand proper exegesis is scripture defining scripture. I know you like pet snippets that make you feel good about your position, but if you really want to be honest about 1John then you will have to consider John 8 and many other parts of scripture...
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